Any News On Bradford?

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Who was the last QB to come back from 2 ACLs in two years?
I won't care if Bradford ends up being the first... ;)

But I don't think anyone here is advocating bringing Bradford back next year and declaring the QB issue solved.
 

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I won't care if Bradford ends up being the first... ;)

But I don't think anyone here is advocating bringing Bradford back next year and declaring the QB issue solved.
Exactly, no one is saying that at all. I don't know why some choose to read selectively. Some think that many of us are saying bring back Bradford and let the season hinge on him being healthy again when that simply isn't the case. Bring Bradford back AND draft a QB early. If Bradford can stay healthy, then the Rams will have a good QB under center. If the rookie beats out Bradford, then the Rams will have a good QB under center. There won't be any franchise type QBs available in free agency, so this our only option, really.
 

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Quick Bradford update:

Last night on the Jeff Fisher show, Fisher said Sam is doing well with his rehab and just has to get the knee back in shape and they'll decide what they'll do with him next year, and then says "I'm thinking he'll be under center for us"
 

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Well this is all speculation. All we know for a fact is the production, record and all the rest isn't what this Rams team needs. It needs a leader that can stay on the field and help them win games.

Bradford has certainly proven he isn't that guy.
I don't think I "know" that Bradford's production isn't what the Rams need. I agree that he needs to find a way to stay on the field but his ability isn't in question for me. His numbers and the team's record with him as starter aren't a direct correlation of his ability and what he could do with a better team around him.
 

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Exactly, no one is saying that at all. I don't know why some choose to read selectively. Some think that many of us are saying bring back Bradford and let the season hinge on him being healthy again when that simply isn't the case. Bring Bradford back AND draft a QB early. If Bradford can stay healthy, then the Rams will have a good QB under center. If the rookie beats out Bradford, then the Rams will have a good QB under center. There won't be any franchise type QBs available in free agency, so this our only option, really.
I don't agree with that. I'd much rather see a FA with some starting experience than drafting the 2nd, 3rd or lower QB available in a seemingly weak draft class.
 

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Exactly, no one is saying that at all. I don't know why some choose to read selectively. Some think that many of us are saying bring back Bradford and let the season hinge on him being healthy again when that simply isn't the case. Bring Bradford back AND draft a QB early. If Bradford can stay healthy, then the Rams will have a good QB under center. If the rookie beats out Bradford, then the Rams will have a good QB under center. There won't be any franchise type QBs available in free agency, so this our only option, really.


Exactly it.. agreed. . Clap clap.. (y)
 

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Exactly, no one is saying that at all. I don't know why some choose to read selectively. Some think that many of us are saying bring back Bradford and let the season hinge on him being healthy again when that simply isn't the case. Bring Bradford back AND draft a QB early. If Bradford can stay healthy, then the Rams will have a good QB under center. If the rookie beats out Bradford, then the Rams will have a good QB under center. There won't be any franchise type QBs available in free agency, so this our only option, really.

Actually, I wouldn't even mind if the team didn't draft a QB early if the team can't get their guy. I'd hope that they would just draft another highly rated position player. It makes little sense to me for the team to draft a QB just to say they drafted one early. If he isn't there guy and/or he sucks, the problem at the position still exists.
 
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In truth Bradford has better QB skills than Davis also in truth Davis is more mobile than Bradford so odds are Bradford might have about the same sack count as what his skills might have him escaped some Davis could not have however Davis mobility had him escape some Bradford could not have. One thing is for sure this is all speculation by us as history can only record what has been done not what we think would have happened.

However history has already recorded when Bradford is sacked between 5-6% of the time he drops back he is a 7 game winner for the season and greater than that his win record becomes worse. So my guess is with what our line is giving up we would be about the same record. Of course pure speculation as ya have to actually play the games for history to count it and be reality.



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Actually, I wouldn't even mind if the team didn't draft a QB early if the team can't get their guy. I'd hope that they would just draft another highly rated position player. It makes little sense to me for the team to draft a QB just to say they drafted one early. If he isn't there guy and/or he sucks, the problem at the position still exists.
I'm not saying draft a QB early just to draft one. Drafting one early for me is making the assumption that there will be a good QB available in the first 3 rounds of the draft that Fisher/Snead likes a lot. No way am I saying draft one just to do it, that would be stupid no matter what position it is.
 

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I don't agree with that. I'd much rather see a FA with some starting experience than drafting the 2nd, 3rd or lower QB available in a seemingly weak draft class.
You would rather see one of this year's FAs battle it out with Bradford at training camp? Have you seen the list? Other than Hoyer (who will likely end back up in Cleveland), who do you propose the Rams sign to compete? And you would rather have them in here over a Connor Cook or Bret Hundley? Yeah, me neither.
 

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You would rather see one of this year's FAs battle it out with Bradford at training camp? Have you seen the list? Other than Hoyer (who will likely end back up in Cleveland), who do you propose the Rams sign to compete? And you would rather have them in here over a Connor Cook or Bret Hundley? Yeah, me neither.
I wouldn't mind seeing Matt Moore as a contingency plan. There might be others, I haven't looked too deeply.

As far as the draft, we don't know who will even be in the draft, much less who will be there when the Rams pick. Pretty sure Cook's already said he's going back to school and Mariota and Winston might too. Regardless of which one('s) might be in the draft, I'd rather go with a FA with some experience and some possible upside than taking a QB in the first or second round in 2015.

Mike Glennon's another name that is attainable that would be an acceptable competitor for Bradford and solid contingency if he had to start. I think Moore and Glennon have both shown potential and neither would be starting from absolute scratch.
 

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I wouldn't mind seeing Matt Moore as a contingency plan. There might be others, I haven't looked too deeply.

As far as the draft, we don't know who will even be in the draft, much less who will be there when the Rams pick. Pretty sure Cook's already said he's going back to school and Mariota and Winston might too. Regardless of which one('s) might be in the draft, I'd rather go with a FA with some experience and some possible upside than taking a QB in the first or second round in 2015.

Mike Glennon's another name that is attainable that would be an acceptable competitor for Bradford and solid contingency if he had to start. I think Moore and Glennon have both shown potential and neither would be starting from absolute scratch.
As a contingency plan, I like both of those names.
 

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I'm not saying draft a QB early just to draft one. Drafting one early for me is making the assumption that there will be a good QB available in the first 3 rounds of the draft that Fisher/Snead likes a lot. No way am I saying draft one just to do it, that would be stupid no matter what position it is.

But, that's just it. My point is that it's a huge assumption that said player will be available at the Rams selections in this draft class. In general, people are always saying that the team should draft this position or that position early as if said assumption is automatic. Team needs simply don't influence player availability.
 
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ahhh the old familiar ramblings of Legend....good to see ya round these parts ...stop by more often, will ya

Ha ha ha...............How ya been bro :) I hope all that snow over in Buffalo did not try to dump on ya'll as well.
 

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I won't care if Bradford ends up being the first... ;)

But I don't think anyone here is advocating bringing Bradford back next year and declaring the QB issue solved.
If he plays and doesn't get injured,I do believe it is resolved
 

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If he plays and doesn't get injured,I do believe it is resolved
Well what I was saying is that even though I want Bradford back, I want the Rams to draft a QB early for a "Plan 1A" as opposed to this year where Bradford basically WAS the plan.

And that I wasn't sure anyone was really advocating for the latter, which had a lot of people criticizing it.